How to ruin a podcast

Mark Ramsey points to a classic example of MSM cluelessness (CBS in this instance). His post makes me uncomfortable because our networks produce a lot of programs (newscasts and sports reports) that are comprised of 3 minutes of programming and one minute of commercial.

What if we were only podcasting that program. Would listeners swallow that? I’m thinking not.

Back in the dark old days, when one of our networks was oversold, we’d just jam in more spots and ask stations to air programs that had more commercial content than programming. Shudder.

Mark sums it up nicely:

“In our zeal to monetize our online content, remember that podcasts are downloaded and played voluntarily. It’s because we like you and want more of you. Yes, we’ll tolerate advertising in podcasts – but not 30 out of 90 seconds!”

Podcasting candidate endorsements

Just listened to the latest podcast from the Missouri State Teachers Association. They call it The Pulse. Co-hosts Todd Fuller Gail McCray broke a little digital ground (I’m guessing) by using the podcast to announce the canidates the MSTA is endorsing in the November election. They spent the first part of the podcast explaining how their endorsement process works. Then they mentioned a few specific endorsements and pointed the listener back to their website for the full list of candidates.

Why do I think this is worth a post? As I listened to Todd and Gail explain this process, I kept thinking they would NEVER get airtime (radio or TV) for that kind of “deep dive.” But it’s important to their audience (teachers, candidates). And by using their podcast to make the announcement, it raises awareness of their podcast. (You now know about it because you read this blog which has nothing to do with education or politics.)

If you want to see/hear how to do an “association podcast,” check out MSTA’s The Pulse.

NAB Radio Show: Podcasting session

Scott’s notes and impressions from the podcasting session at the NAB Radio Show. I am assuming the focus was on how broadcasters can use podcasting.

  • Rather slow and uneventful (although the panel was loaded with the right kind of people)
  • Subscriptions should be for extra stuff only
  • Merchandise is huge rev source
  • Repurposing interviews and special segments GOOD. Normal programming BAD. But time shifting is GOOD. ????
  • Listeners don’t mind commercials if content is good and on-demand.
  • The guy next to me breathes very, very loudly.
  • Podcast listeners are more apt to be info junkies.
  • None on this panel seem excited or comfortable.
  • Use podcasting to distribute info/ent that you wouldn’t normally spend valuable air time for.
  • Perishable programming – content must always be fresh but must have a long shelf life too. People have to be able to come back and relive or discover (archives) and that info/content must be relevant.
  • Ads are the killer. Ads have to be current at all times. PodShow’s tech allows the show to be assembled with current ads whenever the consumer downloads.
  • Length – 22 min for audio, 5 for video.
  • Podcasts must promote interaction.
  • All of this (podcasting, mp3, internet) comes from telephones. It will all go back to telephones. No more “ipod only” products. Speculation.

Podcasting, broadcasting, advertising

Excellent interview at AdAge.com with Leo Laporte. Leo is the man behind TWiT (This Week in Technology), one of the most popular podcasts (monthly reach of 500,000). Which is why the podcast has attracted Dell, T-Mobile and Visa as advertisers. According to the AdAge piece, Laporte’s podcast mini-empire could rake in as much as $2 million dollars in a year, but he says he’s more concerned about how to not ruin the medium with advertising. Excerpts:

“…all podcasters agree that podcasting has more value than radio or almost everything and we deserve a high cost per thousands [of listeners] and are going to create an environment that’s worth it for advertisers. We don’t want to jam it for advertisers. And the audience will let you know — they’re not passive. It’s more of a conversation than a monologue. … We need to hold the line and really deliver quality advertising. It’s going to be hard at first, [podcasters will have to be] turning down advertisers, running fewer ads than you’d like, not take in as much money as you’d like. But if we can focus on delivering something of value we can make both advertisers and listeners happy.”

When asked if he thinks podcasts from mainstream media companies will exercise enough restraint in the advertising:

“I hope they screw it up. I see them as using podcasts to drive to their bread and butter. We’re narrowcasters and they’re broadcasters and there’s a big difference. “Ask a Ninja” wants to be “Seinfeld” but people like me and most I know are narrowcasters. We want to super-serve an audience and develop a relationship. [Broadcasters] see themselves as delivering a lot of people to advertisers and inefficiently. But those days are drying up. There will always be the Tides and Coca-Colas who can afford that but most companies in this modern world need to be efficient and they can be by using these new technologies.”

I have no doubt MSM companies (like ours) can produce quality podcasts. And, given our built-in promotional opportunities, we should be able to attract listeners. Will we “screw it up” when it comes to the advertising model? Don’t know. To be continued.

Short Attention Gamer

Had lunch with Todd Fuller yesterday. Todd’s the communications guy for the Missouri State Teachers Association who –along with his partner, Gail McCray– does a weekly podcast for MSTA. I posted an interview with Todd and Gail last week.

I don’t know if it’s his first love but Todd’s a gamer and –along with his pal Matt– produces another podcast called Short Attention Gamer. According to their website:

SAG“Short Attention Gamer is the podcast for those who love playing games but don’t always have the time to play them. Matt and Todd, both family men and gaming enthusiasts, take you through the newest games and consoles available and breakdown which of these reward those individuals who can play for only short periods of time. If you find some of your best gaming sessions are taking place in a locked bathroom with kids banging on the door on the other side, then this show is for you.”

Todd is a pretty modest guy but, reading betwen the lines, I got the impression SAG is a well-known and popular podcast. Exhibit A: A very clever annimation by one of their fans who took a segment from one of their podcasts and… just watch it. It’s short and funny. And if you’re into games, check out Short Attention Gamer.